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Chapter 3
A CONVENTION TALK.
Mr. Moody on the Importance of Personal Work — How
it Should be Done — Inquirers and How to Meet their Needs — No Two
Cases Alike — Backsliders — Without Conviction — Penitent Ones —
Questions and Answers.
(The intensely practical character of the talks
given at the Northfield Conventions, renders them of far more than
transient interest; and hence a general demand has arisen that they be
couched in permanent form, and given a larger hearing. That the reader
may judge of their value, several are herewith presented. Among the
most suggestive was that by Mr. Moody on “Personal Work.”)
PERSONAL dealing is of the most vital importance. No one can tell how
many souls have been lost through lack of following up the preaching of
the Gospel by personal work. It is deplorable how few church members are
qualified to deal with inquirers. And yet that is the very work in which
they ought most efficiently to aid the pastor. People are not usually
converted under the preaching of the minister. It is in the inquiry
meeting that they are most likely to be brought to Christ. Some people
can’t see the use of inquiry meetings, and think they are something new,
and that we haven’t any authority for them. But they are no innovation. We
read about them all through the Bible. When John the Baptist was preaching
he was interrupted. It would be a good thing if people would interrupt the
minister now and then in the middle of some metaphysical sermon, and ask
what he means. The only way to make sure that people understand what he is
talking about is to let them ask questions. I don’t know what some men,
who have got the whole thing written out, would do if someone should get
up and ask: “What must I do to be saved?” Yet such questions would do more
good than anything else you could have. They would wake up a spirit of
inquiry. Some people say, all you want to do is to make the preaching so
plain that plain people will understand it. Well, John the Baptist was a
plain preacher, and yet he asked: “Have you understood these things?” He
encouraged them to inquire. I think people sometimes would be greatly
relieved, when the minister is preaching way above their heads, if he
would stop and ask whether they understood it. His very object is to make
the Word of God clear. Christ was a plain preacher; but when He preached
to Saul, the man was only awakened. Christ could have convicted and
converted him; but He honored a human agency, and sent Ananias forth to
tell the Word whereby he was to be saved. Philip was sent away into the
desert to talk to one man in the chariot. We must have personal work —
hand-to-hand work — if we are going to have results.
NO UNIFORM RULE FOR ALL.
I admit you can’t lay down rules in dealing with inquirers. There are no
two persons exactly alike. Matthew and Paul were a good ways apart. The
people we deal with may be widely different. What would be medicine for
one might be rank poison for another. In the 15th of Luke the elder son
and the younger son were exactly opposite. What would have been good
counsel for one might have been ruin to the other. God never made two
persons to look alike. If we had made men, probably we would have made
them all alike, even if we had to crush some bones to get them into the
mold. But that is not God’s way. In the universe there is infinite
variety.
The Philippian jailer required peculiar treatment. Christ dealt with
Nicodemus one way, and the woman at the well another way. It is difficult
to say just how people are to be saved, yet there are certain portions of
Scripture that can be brought to bear on certain classes of inquirers.
I want to say, I think it is a great mistake, in dealing with inquirers,
to tell your own experience. Experience may have its place; but I don’t
think it has its place when you are dealing with inquirers. For the first
thing the man you are talking to will do will be to look for your
experience. He doesn’t want your experience. He wants one of his own. No
two persons are converted alike. Suppose Bartimeus had gone to Jerusalem
to the man that was born blind, and said: “Now just tell us how the Lord
cured you.”
The Jerusalem man might have said: “He just spat on the ground, and
anointed my eyes with the clay.” “Ho!” says Bartimeus; “I don’t believe
you ever got your sight at all. Who ever heard of such a way as that? Why,
to fill a man’s eyes with clay is enough to put them out!” Both men were
blind, but they were not cured alike. A great many men are kept out of the
kingdom of God because they are looking for somebody else’s experience —
the experience their grandmother had, or their aunt, or someone in the
family. I knew an old man who used to tell people to go down to a certain
bridge and get on their knees, and the Lord would meet them there. Some
Christians take the ground that sinners are not saved unless they are
saved just in their way. Then it is very important to deal with one at a
time. A doctor doesn’t give cod liver oil for all complaints. No; he says,
“I must see what each one wants.” He wants to look at the tongue, and
inquire into the symptoms. One may have ague, another typhoid fever, and
another may have consumption. What a man wants is to be able to read his
Bible, and to read human nature too.
DIFFERENT CLASSES.
Now, it will be a great help to some of us to divide inquirers into
classes, and I would like to say a few words about some of these. In the
first place, there is a class of people who lack assurance. Of course they
are church members, but there are plenty of people inside the church who
need inquiry work just as much as those outside. For example, there are a
great many church members who are just hobbling about on crutches. They
can just make out that they are saved, and imagine that is all that
constitutes a Christian in this nineteenth century. As far as helping
others is concerned, that never enters their heads. They think if they can
get along themselves they are doing amazingly well. They have no idea what
the Holy Ghost wants to do through them.
BACKSLIDERS.
I would like to take up the class of backsliders. You always find when
Christians are awakened there are a great many returning backsliders, and
you want to know how to deal with them. Backsliders are doing a vast
amount of injury. One backslider will do more harm than twenty Christian
men can do good. Unconverted people say: “Here are some men who have tried
this way. If there is as much joy in it as you make out, how is it that so
many people are dissatisfied and go back into the world?” It’s a hard
argument to overcome. It is very important to get these stumbling blocks
out of the way. Now, in dealing with backsliders, I use Jeremiah more than
any other book in the Bible. Some use only the New Testament, but I want
the Old Testament as well as the New. It seems as if the whole Book of
Jeremiah was written for backsliders. See Jeremiah 1:17: “Thou, therefore,
gird up thy loins, and arise and speak unto them all that I command thee.”
It is God speaking through Jeremiah. In the second chapter and thirteenth
verse, He says: “My people have committed two evils; they have forsaken
Me, the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken
cisterns, that can hold no water.” That goes right to the heart of every
backslider — that is, every true backslider. A great many people are not
true backsliders. As the old chaplain in the army said, they never slid
forward. They have been clinging to some minister, some church, some
choir; they never were converted at all. But a man that has ever known the
Shepherd — ah, he will hear the voice. When you find a real backslider,
who has once known the Lord and loved Him, take him to the Word as quick
as you can — “My people have hewn out cisterns, broken cisterns.” And then
just turn right around to him and say: “Isn’t that your difficulty? Does
the world satisfy you? Does the water of this world quench your thirst?”
And if he is a true child of God, he will shrink and say: “Don’t! oh
don’t!” He can’t bear to hear it. Then in the nineteenth verse of the same
chapter: “Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings
shall reprove thee.” I have known men whose backslidings have been ruin to
their families, and their children have grown skeptical. When you read
this passage to this kind of backsliders, they will say: “What! does the
Bible say that? That is my case. Darkness and sorrow have come into my
family.” There is nothing like bringing the word of God to bear upon these
people. I remember when I was in St. Louis the last time, there was an old
man who had been away off on the mountains of an ungodly life, but in his
early manhood he had known Christ. There he was in the inquiry room,
literally broken down. About midnight that old man came trembling before
God, and was saved. He wiped away his tears, and started home. Next night
I saw him in the audience, with a terrible look in his face. As soon as
I’d got done preaching, I went to him and said: “My good friend, you
haven’t gone back into darkness again?”
Said he: “Oh, Mr. Moody, it has been the most wretched day in my life.”
“Why so?” “Well, you know, this morning as soon as I got my breakfast, I
started out. I have got a number of children, married, and in this city,
and they have got families; and I have spent the day going around and
telling them what God has done for me. I told them how I had tasted
salvation, with the tears trickling down my face; and, Mr. Moody, I hadn’t
a child that didn’t mock me.” That made me think of Lot down in Sodom. It
is an awful thing for a man who has been a backslider to have his children
mock him. But it is written: “Thy backslidings shall reprove thee; know
therefore, and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast
forsaken the Lord thy God.” Then look at the thirty-second verse: “Can a
maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet My people have
forgotten Me, days without number.” You know very well if you lost an
earring you would hunt for days to find it. Yet you may lose your
Christian hope, and you won’t hunt for it. If you lost a diamond ring, how
you would hunt for it! I have met a great many backsliders in that way. I
remember saying to a lady: “Madam, you think more of that earring than you
do of the kingdom of God. Don’t you know that?” “Why, no!” “Yes; if you
lost it, wouldn’t you hunt for it?” “Yes.” “Have you thought as much of
the peace you have lost? You have lost the peace of God, and the joy of
your salvation.
Have you sought it?” In that way you are likely to bring them back. Take
Jeremiah 3:12-14: “Return, thou backsliding Israel,.... for I am
merciful.”
Then the nineteenth verse: “How shall I put thee among the children?....
Thou shalt call Me, My Father; and shalt not turn away from Me.” Then read
Hosea 14:1,2,3,4,5, and a great many others. There is one peculiarity
about backsliders. They have got to get out the way they got in. “Repent,
and do the first works.” “Turn from your backslidings.” “Turn from your
sin.” Take the same road that took you away from Christ to bring you back.
I once remember once talking with a backslider, and I said: “If you would
treat Christ as you would treat any earthly friend, you would never go
away from Him.” “How is that?” “Did you ever know a backslider to go in
his closet, get down on his knees, tell the Lord he was tired of His
service, and bid him good-bye, and then go back into the world? When you
are leaving a friend you bid him good-bye, don’t you? Then you treat
Christ as you would not treat an earthly friend.”
Q. What would you say to a backslider who wanted to get back his old
experience?
A. He doesn’t want his old experience; he wants a new one. God doesn’t
repeat Himself. That is the very pit a great many tumble into — they want
the same experience. But God will give them a fresh experience, and
perhaps a better one. You remember how God used Peter after He restored
him. I don’t believe David was used before he fell as much as he was used
afterward. Look at that <195101> 51st Psalm. What a help it has been to
multitudes — written by a restored backslider! If you have fallen and come
back, God may use you far more in the future than He ever did before.
Q. What would you do with a man who thinks he has backslidden so far there
is no hope for him?
A. The devil tells him that. He says: “There is no chance of your being
renewed,” etc. Why, there’s no one but has backslidden. I have backslidden
many times. Thank God, I never lost my hope. But I have gone away from the
Lord. There isn’t a Christian on the face of the earth that hasn’t
backslidden.
Q. Would you advise men who have backslidden, and been restored, to go
into Christian work again?
A. Yes; by all means. Sometimes they make the best workers. They are apt
to go very softly and carefully.
Q. Is it wise to have them go forth as Christian preachers and teachers?
A. Well; David taught, I think, a great deal better after he was restored
than before. Peter taught. His great sermon at Pentecost was after he had
been restored. Someone might have said to him: “Didn’t I hear you denying
Christ and swearing the other night?” “Oh, yes; but God has forgiven me.”
Peter spoke out of a full heart, because he had been forgiven.
When God forgives a man; that is the end of it. He is forgiven —
justified.
Q. Would you discriminate in the matter of testimony after a man has
fallen?
A. Well, let me tell you about confession. Every man ought to make a
public confession if his sin has been public. Suppose, now, I have done
this man a wrong, and no one knows it but us two. Then the confession
ought to be between us two alone. I don’t believe in making confession of
such a thing publicly — it isn’t called for. Suppose I had a difficulty
with my family. It ought to be settled with my family. It needn’t go forth
to the world. But suppose I have been a public blasphemer — have been seen
reeling in the streets of Northfield a drunkard — it is known by all the
people here — I ought to make my confession so that the whole town will
hear it, and the chances are they will receive my testimony.
PERSONS NOT CONVICTED.
Now, let me speak about another class — those that have not been convicted
of sin. When we preach the Word it falls upon all kinds of ground; and we
must preach right along, no matter what the soil is. Some men cultivate
rich soil, but some of us have to do what we can in stony ground among
these old hills of New England. We must not sit in judgment upon men that
we think are hard to impress, and say: “These men are not worth offering
the Gospel to.” Our business is to offer the Gospel to everyone. We are to
sow beside all waters. But in dealing with these men in the inquiry room,
it is a great mistake to give certain passages to a man who has not been
convicted of sin that were never meant for him. The law is what the man
wants. It is no use talking peaceful words when he doesn’t know there is
war; no use offering medicine when he doesn’t know he is sick. The
Pharisee on the housetop was just as far from God as he could possibly go.
The publican was just at the threshold of the kingdom before he went in.
Look at those two men. They are types of two classes in the inquiry
meeting. Give one the law, nothing but the law. Don’t give comforting
passages. I wouldn’t say: “Come unto Me, all ye that labor and are heavy
laden.” He isn’t heavy laden. He has got his head so high that he is
likely to tumble over backward — full of his own conceit, his own
righteousness. That man needs the law. Give him Galatians 3; and Romans
3:10: “There is none righteous; no, not one”; and the <235301> 53rd
chapter of Isaiah: “We all, like sheep, have gone astray.” Read to him
descriptions of his own heart, and let him see himself as God sees him.
But remember that it is the work of the Holy Ghost to produce conviction.
I am simply to present the truth, and let the Holy Spirit do His work. It
isn’t my fault, if I have preached faithfully, and the man isn’t
convicted. “When He comes, He will convince the world of sin.” I don’t
believe there is any power on earth that can convince a man of sin without
the Holy Ghost.
INVITATIONS TO THE PENITENT.
There is another class of inquirers, and that is, those who are deeply
convicted of sin. For those I would take, first, the <401101> 11th chapter
of Matthew: “Come unto Me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I
will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you, and learn of Me; for I am meek
and lowly of heart; and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For My yoke is
easy, and My burden is light.” This comes with great tenderness and great
power when a man is awakened. Then use texts that say: “Come.” The word
“come” occurs 1,900 times in the Bible. It begins away back in Genesis,
and runs right through to the last chapter of Revelation — “Come,” “Come.”
In talking to an unconverted person, make it as plain as you can.
Sometimes I talk this way: “‘Come’ is the first thing a mother says to her
little child. When she wants it to learn to walk, she places it beside a
chair, goes off a little distance, and then says ‘come,’ and the little
thing lets go of the chair and runs to its mother. That is what coming
means. If you can’t come as a saint, come as a sinner. If you feel that
your heart is so hard you are not fit to come, God wants you just as you
are.
He can soften your hard heart. If you are weary and heavy laden, come, and
the Lord will bless you.” I remember a man in the north of England, a few
years ago, the last time Mr. Sankey and I were there. He fell into the
hands of a good worker — a Scotchman. He said he felt he was bound by a
chain so that he could not go to God. “Eh, mon,” said the Scotchman, “why
don’t you go, chain and all?” “Why, I never thought of that!” And he went.
One text you can make great use of is John 5:24: “Verily, verily, I say
unto you, he that believeth on Him that sent Me hath everlasting life,”
etc. Another is John 6:37: “Him that cometh unto Me I will in no wise cast
out.” I remember laboring with a man in Chicago. It was past midnight
before he got down on his knees, but down he went, and was converted. I
said: “Now, don’t think you are going to get out of the devil’s territory
without trouble. The devil will come to you tomorrow morning and say it
was all feeling; that you only imagined you were accepted by God. When he
does, don’t fight him with your own opinions, but fight him with John
6:37. Let that be the ‘sword of the Spirit.’” The struggle came sooner
than I thought. When he was on his way home the devil assailed him. He
used this text, but the devil put this thought into his mind: “How do you
know Christ ever said that, after all? Perhaps the translators made a
mistake.” Into darkness he went again. He was in trouble till about two in
the morning. At last he came to this conclusion.
Said he: “I will believe it anyway; and when I get to heaven, if it isn’t
true, I will just tell the Lord I didn’t make the mistake — the
translators made it.” So he trusted in Him who His own self bare our sins
in His own body on the tree.
Q. Is it right for a man to mourn over his non-success in preaching if he
fails?
A. If a man doesn’t have any fruit in his ministry, he may well mourn.
“Herein is My Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit.” But then, if a
man delivers the message faithfully, and doesn’t see any fruit after one
sermon, he isn’t to lash himself because he hasn’t got power. If I am
right with God there will be fruit to my labor.
Q. Is the aid of the Spirit ever arbitrarily withheld?
A. What do you mean?
Q. Cannot a man preach faithfully for a long time and still see no fruit?
A. Ah! but don’t you know there is sometimes something that is obstructing
the work of the Spirit — like a row in a church choir? The Holy Spirit
can’t do anything in a church that has got a row on hand. The difficulty
with a great many churches in this land is that there are so many old
stumps in the way of the plough. There are family feuds — church members
who won’t speak to one another. How is the Spirit of God going to work
there? The minister blames himself; but he needn’t, except for one thing:
He ought to get up and get out. I wouldn’t waste my life preaching to a
church like that. I’d rather go into a city and organize a church of my
own — get men off the streets.
Q. A preacher may give a sermon and see no results at the time; but
afterwards he may go into families and find conviction there — isn’t that
true?
A. Yes; there has got to be personal work. Sometimes I have preached and
asked people to raise their hands. Not a soul. Then I have gone down into
the audience and said to some man, “Don’t you want to become a Christian?”
— and found a great many ready to be talked to. Sometimes a splendid work
can be done among people who don’t like to express themselves before the
whole audience. You can’t always tell. But there are times when you feel
as if you were preaching against a brick wall. There doesn’t seem to be
any power in your words. They come back in your face. The people are not
in a condition to receive the Word.
Q. What would you do with persons who go into the inquiry room to work,
and yet their record is not clean?
A. I wouldn’t have them there. Some of the inquirers would be likely to
say, “Physician, heal thyself” — “Take the beam out of your own eye before
you try to take out mine.” I haven’t a doubt in my mind, if we are to have
earnest, faithful, honest dealing with souls, we must keep these men away
from inquirers. I know it is a difficult thing to do, but I’ve done it
many a time. If there is a man who isn’t right, just go to him and say
that he must straighten out a few things in his life before you want him
there. If he gets angry, that settles it — shows he is not right. But if
it breaks him down, then it is different. “Faithful are the wounds of a
friend.” The best friend will tell you your faults. If I haven’t got grace
enough to be told my faults, the less I say about the Lord Jesus Christ
the better. Christ was always telling His disciples their faults.
Q. How far would you carry your instruction from the Bible, aiming at
conviction?
A. A man ought to be able to handle his Bible, and give as many passages
as he thinks are needed.
Q. How are you going to know where to turn the scale?
A. If a man acknowledges himself lost, then I go on another line. But
there must be a breaking first. We must give enough of the law to take
away all self-righteousness. I pity the man who preaches only one side of
the truth — always the Gospel and never the law.
Q. Is it right to tell an inquirer just to believe on the Lord Jesus
Christ and be saved, and leave out conviction?
A. I don’t tell a man to feel that he is a sinner before God. We don’t
feel we are sinners really till afterward. The question is: “Do you
believe you are lost — alienated from God — and that your only hope is in
Another?”
Q. Is a man convicted of the sin of drunkenness, for example, by any other
means than the Holy Ghost?
A. No. He may know he is a great sinner, but yet the Holy Ghost must give
him a conviction of the exceeding sinfulness of sin.
Q. Is it possible for a man who has been convinced by the Holy Spirit to
keep some sins?
A. If he doesn’t know they are sins, yes. But the next thing will be, the
Holy Spirit will show him that they are sins. His conscience will become
quickened, and he will get light. I did a great many things twenty years
ago that I wouldn’t do now any more than I would stick my hand into the
fire.
I got light. Most of my repentance came after I knew Christ. I never saw
sin in its exceeding sinfulness till I knew Christ. The first thing the
Spirit of God does is to let a man know that he is a sinner. If the Spirit
has taken up His abode in his heart, he sees what an awful thing sin is —
loathes it, hates it. Then he is ready to preach the Gospel of Christ who
came to put away sin.
Q. What would you say is the greatest sin?
A. Unbelief. That is the mother of all sin. There wouldn’t be a drunkard,
or a harlot, or a thief, or a murderer, if it wasn’t for unbelief. It
brought forth all the misery in this world. Only the Holy Ghost can
convince a man of that sin.
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